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Jesse Hardin
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Username: Jahardin

Post Number: 9
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   

Based on the recent News 8 story about low income "Section 8" housing coming to Frisco, can you tell concerned citizens where these two proposed developments will end up?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 167
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:34 pm:   

There are two projects that are applying to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for the tax credits. If these applications are approved and the projects move forward, one is located on the south side of Stonebrook Parkway, between Woodstream Dr. and Preston Road and the second project is located north of McKinney Road, just east of Frisco Commons Park.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

Scott A
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Username: Xtole

Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:11 pm:   

Is there anything the citizens of Frisco can do to either support or protest this? ie is there a public forum where we can be heard?
 

MJ
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Username: Jackson88

Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 06:31 pm:   

This is very concerning. How do we find out more about this?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 169
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:19 pm:   

There are two projects that are applying to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA) for the tax credits. If these applications are approved by the TDHCA and the projects move forward, one is located on the south side of Stonebrook Parkway, between Woodstream Dr. and Preston Road and the second project is located north of McKinney Road, just east of Frisco Commons Park.

The City Council has an item on their February 16th meeting to vote on letters of support for these projects and citizens may sign up to speak at the council meeting. You may also e-mail the Mayor and Council your comments. The TDHCA is also holding public hearings in April and letters concerning these projects will be accepted by the TDHCA. Information on the TDHCA process will be on our website after the council votes next Wednesday.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

CMc
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Username: My_2_cents_worth

Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   

Are these apartment projects or houses?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 170
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:52 pm:   

This is two multi-family housing projects that are proposed to go on land that is zoned for multi-family. Additional information can be found on the agenda for February 16th; it is item number25 at the following link.
 

Greg Davis
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Username: Frisco_renovator

Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   

I'm still unclear on whether these two developments are going to remain publicly owned, or if the rental units will be sold off to the public?
For any interested investors, here's some interesting reading on Section 8 Housing Programs.
All I know is that the dirtiest, most depressing, dilapidated housing I've ever seen was government-owned housing, not owned by private landlords. Just a thought, for those who believe that government ownership is the answer everyone's problems.
Any word on the plans for these developments?

-Greg

(Message edited by perry on February 19, 2010)
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   

The developers will maintain ownership of the multi-family housing. The developers will submit their full applications to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA). If they are awarded housing tax credits by TDHCA then their projects would move forward at that time. That determination is not made until June or July. TDHCA will hold public hearings on all submitted projects in April. Persons interested may submit comments to the TDHCA in writing or they may choose to attend the public hearings.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

Christopher Reemts
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Username: Tanker64

Post Number: 11
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:16 pm:   

I was not able to attend Tuesdays meeting. What is the City of Frisco's stance on this? I have to believe - given a lack of information - that these projects will have a significant negative effect on property values in the surrounding areas. Perhaps I am missing something. Is there a place of facts rather than opinions we can go to research prior to the public meetings mentioned?

Thank you
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 176
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:31 am:   

The City Council voted on Tuesday night to provide letters of support to two developers that are applying to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA) for housing tax credits. If the developers are successful in obtaining the housing tax credits the multi-family projects will move forward. Additional information can be found on the City’s website at the following location:

http://www.friscotexas.gov/communication/Pages/proposedlowincomesect8.aspx

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

J Radcliffe
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Username: Spyder

Post Number: 7
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   

I have read the city website regarding these projects and understand that 50 units will be set aside for Section 8 voucher tenants. What income restriction level will the remainder of the units be? 60% AMI, 50% AMI, 30% AMI? will there be any market rate units in these projects? I have always found that mixed income (market and restricted units together) operate to higher standards and are more acceptable to the existing residents. I would ask that the city push for a mixed income component containing both restricted and market rate units.
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 177
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:41 am:   

The projects get more points in the housing tax credit program for low income restrictions. The following is a proposed breakdown of the two projects:

VDC Frisco Reserve I, LP
10 units – 30%AMFI
110 units – 50% AMFI
80 units – 60% AMFI
200 total units

Stewart Creek LLP
8 units – 30% AMFI
68 units – 50% AMFI
74 units – 60% AMFI
150 total units

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

Christopher Reemts
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Username: Tanker64

Post Number: 12
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 10:06 am:   

Diversity in Frisco will make Frisco stronger. But I do have concerns about budgets. These types of projects sound and look good on paper, but, is the City of Frisco ready budget wise for the increase in Police and Fire services that normally accompany these projects? Also, is Frisco ISD a part of the process? FISD will be needing to make adjustments for ESL and possibly class sizes in the areas to be developed. I hope we are all preparing for both the costs and the benefits of this program.
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 178
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   

The developers are required to notify the FISD when they file their application with the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA). While the developers are continuing through the process with the TDHCA, the projects are competing with almost 58 other projects in the region for funding. The TDHCA will make a decision in June or July concerning the funding distribution. If the developers are successful in their effort to obtain housing tax credits the building of the apartments would not affect the 2011 budgets but rather the 2012 or 2013 budget. We certainly take the projected increase in population into consideration when preparing the City’s budget.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

MJ
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Username: Jackson88

Post Number: 28
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   

Did the city research crime rates experienced by other cities before/after Section 8 housing before making this decision? I would be very interested in knowing if there are increases in crime rates compared to the time period before Section 8 housing opened in similar cities. Maybe I just don't understand the program that well but one of these is going in near my childrens' school and the other is going in near the park they frequently play at. We moved to Frisco because it was not overloaded with apartments, was a very nice and clean city, felt very very safe, etc. I'm hopeful this doesn't change. I read the 'Proposed Low Income/Section 8' web page on the City's web site but it does nothing to educate the citizens on what this really means to us. It just tells us the timeline of the decision.
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 181
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   

The City did not conduct any research for Section 8 housing other than reviewing crime reports in the areas where the two developers own Section 8 housing today. However, there are various articles that support both pro and con concerning Section 8 housing. Both developers have stated for the record that they do background checks on potential renters and both developers have stated they do not rent to criminals as defined “meaning no felonies or deferred adjudication for felonies, no misdemeanors involving violent crimes against persons or related to drug possession, theft, usage or trafficking”. The City’s letter of support restates this commitment from the developers.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

Cristopher D. Marshall
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Username: Utdogs1997

Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   

Please correct me if I am wrong on my understanding of this issue.

1. Is it true that Frisco is well above the 50,000 threshold and is therefore labeled an “entitlement city”?
2. Is it true that this “entitlement city” classification allows us to be eligible for federal monies that are channeled through the state?
3. Is it true, that in order to be eligible for some or all of the money that comes from the federal government, we are asked, not told, to participate in some sort of federal housing program?
4. Is it true that entitlement cities can legally forfeit certain dollar amounts and thereby not be required to participate in certain government housing programs?
5. Who decides then, whether or not to actually be involved in this quid pro quo relationship? I assume it is the City Council votes on this?
6. And my last question. How much federal money are we getting for allowing these developers to apply for this tax credit?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 196
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 06:33 pm:   

Here is the response to your 6 questions:
1. Yes the City is an “entitlement City”
2. Yes we are eligible for federal dollars that come to the City as “Community Development Block Grants” (CDBG)
3. No, we do not have to participate in a federal housing program. We are required to have fair housing policies and to identify barriers to affordable housing and solutions to the barriers.
4. I am not sure we totally understand this question, but we cannot choose to receive only a portion of the CDBG grant. It is all or nothing.
5. The City Council has to approve the use of the CDBG funding.
6. The agreement with ICP which required a letter of support for the developers applying for the tax credit has nothing to do with the CDBG federal funds.

Nell Lange
Assistant City Manager
 

celinaduo
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Username: Celinaduo

Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 01:24 pm:   

Can you provide an update on this topic? I've heard that one of these properties has withdrawn its request. Also, it seems that the sign is no longer up on Stonebrook Pkwy.
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
Moderator
Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 02:47 pm:   

The project that was proposed for property East of Frisco Commons Park and North of BiCentennial Park did withdraw. The Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA) is still evaluating the remaining projects, which included the location on Stonebrook Parkway. The project was still close to the bottom of the list, however we will not know anything definite from the TDHCA as far as funding until sometime in July.

Thanks,
Nell Lange, Assistant City Manager

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