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Marlon Landry
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Username: Marlon

Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 08:58 am:   

I've seen many posts regarding West Frisco traffic problems, and many of them are awaiting approval or funding. My question is in regard to the existing signal at 423 and Lebanon.

The AM traffic bottlenecks severely at this intersection - usually back through Little Elm, and I would like to know what can be done to increase the green signal time for the north/south traffic.

I'd estimate there are over 150 cars north of this light compared to 4-8 in the east/west direction coming off Lebanon. I've kept notes the last 8 weekdays. The most cars I've seen exiting Lebanon was 8, the least 4.

Again, what needs to be done to help alleviate the bottleneck here?
 

Brian Moen, Traffic Engineer
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Username: Brian

Post Number: 124
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 05:35 pm:   

Marlon,

The Texas Department of Transportation controls this intersection. They can be reached at 214-320-6100.

I have visited the intersection on several occasions to review the timing. I agree that there are often few vehicles waiting on Boyd/Lebanon to get onto FM 423 in the morning. The current timing allows for at least nearly four minutes or more of green on FM 423 before serving the side street (Boyd/Lebanon). The side street can typically be served in about 40 seconds or less before returning back to FM 423. We will see about increasing the green time for FM 423, however, there is simply too much traffic on FM 423 where any amount of stoppage at Boyd/Lebanon will create a backup.

Thanks
Brian Moen
Traffic Engineer
bmoen@ci.frisco.tx.us
 

Shafi Haque
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Username: Shafi_haque

Post Number: 14
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 09:14 am:   

Hi Brain:

Could you please lead us to some contact info for current and future development project with FM423?

Thanks,

Shafi
 

Frank Jaromin, City Engineer
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Username: Frank_jaromin

Post Number: 13
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:52 am:   

The City is currently under design of FM 423 from Stewart Creek Road to SH 380. This effort is jointly funded by the City of Frisco and Denton County; Commissioner White has been instrumental in this project. The engineering will take 18 months and is currently an unfunded project with TxDot. The City and County will are preparing the drawings in hope to have it moved up on the TxDot list of Construction projects once Right-of –Way and utilities are cleared.
 

Shafi Haque
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Username: Shafi_haque

Post Number: 15
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 09:14 am:   

Hi Frank:

Since last week we are seeing some wire laid across before and after each intersection on FM 423. I think these are the part of FM23 traffic counts wire and glad to see initial phase of development work started.

Now my question is I saw a construction sign on FM423/720 (opposite from 7-11) saying “construction begin next 2 miles”. Could you please let us know what this means and what type of construction it will be and when it will “really” start and schedule end date.

Thanks in advance for your very informative posting.

Regards,

Shafi




(Message edited by karinh on September 18, 2003)
 

Frank Jaromin, City Engineer
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Username: Frank_jaromin

Post Number: 18
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 03:02 pm:   

Denton County has started a road widening from the intersection of Main and FM 423 to Lake Lewisville Bridge in Little Elm. This project is being built in two contracts the first contract is with Jagoe with the limits to be from Main to the split of FM 423 & FM 720 (the Y). The scope is generally widened the boxes and the bridges and provide for a shoulder similarly to what happened south of Main. Each contract has a nine-month time frame. The second phase will start next month.

If you would like to discuss this further please do not hesitate to contact me at 972-335-5580 ext 156
Frank Jaromin
City Engineer
 

Douglas Weiss
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Username: Doug

Post Number: 7
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 03:17 pm:   

Frank,

Does this project include adding turn lanes at Main and 423? I believe construction on those is suppose to start before the end of the year.
 

Frank Jaromin, City Engineer
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Username: Frank_jaromin

Post Number: 19
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 09:23 am:   

The funding source for fhis project was first awarded by COG to Little Elm. Denton County has now steped up to fund this project. The (ILA) Inter Local Agreement is going to the next City Council Meeting for consideration and approval. To answer your question there are two separate projects and I am trying to work with TxDot to make it one. If that does not work the City will construct the turn lanes and signal improvements. The drawings have been approved except the signal modifications but they are in to TxDot for approval now. I am planning on advertising this project next month and construction will start in 45 days after award if Council approves this ILA.

If you would like to discuss this further please do not hesitate to contact me at 972-335-5580 ext 156
Frank Jaromin
City Engineer
 

Cristopher D. Marshall
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Username: Utdogs1997

Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 08:02 pm:   

My question contains a few separate inquiries all dealing with the western area of Frisco.

What exactly are the city limits of Frisco along FM423? I know that it does not parallel the road and that Little Elm and Frisco both cross over the road at certain points. And how does this affect development and widening of that road?

Also, the widening of FM720 that is going on right now (the part that is actually also FM423 going north before the Y-split), is that going to be 4 lanes? Or just 2 and a center with medians? I may have misunderstood a previous post.




(Message edited by amyg on January 20, 2004)
 

Cissy Sylo, Director of Engineering Serv
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Username: C_sylo

Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 11:42 am:   

The FM 423 improvements are being done by a TxDOT contractor. The work will provide shoulders but no additional lanes of traffice when completed. There will be 2 lanes plus shoulders when they are finished. There is no median planned as part ofthis construction by TxDOT.

 

Scott Ingalls, Zoning & Subdivision Admi
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Username: Scott_ingalls

Post Number: 40
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   

Mr. Marshall,

You are quite correct that the western boundary of the city does not follow FM 423. You can find the city limit boundaries by clicking on the GIS link on the City's Home Page. Once you are in the map you can go to that part of the city where you have a question and see where the line is. Property that is in the City or in the City's ETJ shows as being shaded compared to clear for Little Elm or The Colony.

FM 423 is a state highway and TxDOT is responsible for widening and further development of the highway. Frisco, Little Elm and The Colony can request that TxDOT make improvements but they make the decisions as to when and how the improvements will be made.

Scott Ingalls
Zoning & Subdivision Administrator
 

Doug
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Username: Doug

Post Number: 19
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:07 pm:   

Will turn lanes be constructed at 423 and Main as part of this project, or will Frisco build those as a second project?
 

Cissy Sylo, Director of Engineering Serv
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Username: C_sylo

Post Number: 17
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 08:49 am:   

The city of Frisco in conjunction with Denton County is currently building turn lanes at the intersection of FM 423 & Main.

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