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Melanie Garrett (Grendlova)
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2002 - 10:14 am:   

My concern is that all the streets and sidewalks/trails in Frisco are constructed of concrete. Concrete is a very hard surface with no "give" to it, unlike black-top or a dirt/gravel trail. Runners and walkers may suffer problems with their joints due to exercising on this surface.

I brought up this concern to the head of the Parks & Rec Dept last year, but was told that there were no plans to address the issue. He recommended that I run on the grass next to the concrete trails. I try to do this occasionally, but I've come close to spraining an ankle and would hate to have that injury.

Anyone out there with a similar concern? What can I do to get the P&R Dept to see that we need an alternate running surface or else we'll have a community of people with bad knees/ankles? I was thinking of starting a petition and making a showing at a city council meeting...

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec (Rick)
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 12:54 pm:   

Dear Ms. Garrett,

Thank you for your note regarding trail composition in the community. While I don't recall our specific conversation from last year, you are correct in stating that all of the sidewalks and pedestrian ways along streets and thorofares are constructed with concrete.

These are specifically identified in the City's Construction Standards and Details that each developer is required to follow when constructing various forms of development. I would probably suggest contacting the Engineering Department (Frank Jaromin - 972-335-5580 ext. 156) or the Planning Department (John Lettelleir - 972-335-5540 ext. 140). Either of these two gentlemen would be a good source on existing standards of this type.

In regard to trails that are located in park sites, while many of the trails currently in place are constructed in concrete, there are other park sites in the city where trail composition will likely utilize materials other than just concrete.

Two examples of these would be the McKinney Road Park site, located along McKinney Road, just north of Main Street (FM 720) in the downtown area, and the Southwest Community Park site, that is located along and north of the intersection of Lebanon Road and Fourth Army Memorial Road.

In both of these cases, each park would likely have a portion of their trails composed of a natural material such as crushed limestone, crushed granite, or other surface not yet defined.

I feel that the Parks and Recreation Board as well as the Community Development Corporation, who recommend most park development projects to the City Council are very open to the option of providing nature and alternate sources of trails in our park sites, where appropriate.

If you would like some additional information regarding these two parks or other locations where alternate trail types would be likely, please feel free to contact me. I would be interested in providing additional details.

Should you have any additional questions regarding our parks and recreation system, please let me or my staff know.


Rick Wieland
Director of Parks and Recreation
(972) 335-5517

Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 08:45 pm:   

Crushed limestone and granite are excellent for hiking - but are worse than even concrete for jogging. I think that you missed the question entirely (or avoided it).

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec (Rick)
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 10:14 am:   

Dear Anonymous

Thank you for your note. In my previous posting addressing Ms. Garrett’s comments, I tried to indicate that those parks that would likely have trails composed with a surface other than concrete would use a natural material used such as crushed limestone, crushed granite or other surface not yet defined. This could potentially be wood bark or other softer materials if that is appropriate for the site.

At this point in time, no determination has been made in regard to the trail surface. As you know, trails are utilized by many user groups including, but not limited to joggers, walkers, skaters, hikers, cyclists, etc. We try to provide the best surface possible for users to access these trails and to keep in mind the maintenance of these areas as well.

As development is considered for any of our parks, we welcome additional input that could be potentially implemented at these sites. The Parks and Recreation Board as well as the Community Development Corporation meet each month and make recommendations to the City Council regarding park development.

It is my hope that my comments are not construed as avoiding your question or the one brought out in the previous posting. If you would like further information regarding potential trails in the city, I would ask that you contact me personally and I can address this further.


Rick Wieland
Director of Parks and Recreation
(972) 335-5517