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Kelly Nothaft
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Username: Kaceymaceymom

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   

Can someone identify exactly where the school zone(s) on Eldorado, between Greyhawk and the Dallas North Tollway, begin and end? While there are indicators for the beginning of the school zones there are no "END SCHOOL ZONE" signs to indicate where the reduced speed limit stretch ends.
Thanks.
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 103
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 03:40 pm:   

Kelly,

That stretch of Eldorado Parkway is a state roadway (FM 2934) and therefore is operated, maintained, and controlled by TxDOT. TxDOT has strict guidelines regarding the installation of school zones, and because no children are required to cross Eldorado Parkway in this area to attend school, they will not install a school zone.

Rather than install a school zone, TxDOT agreed to install a flashing school warning sign with an advisory speed of 35 mph attached to it in advance of Griffin Middle School in each direction. These were installed in 2004. This past August, we requested that TxDOT install a flashing school warning sign near Purefoy Elementary.

So there is no school zone with an exact beginning and an exact end. The slower 35 mph advisory speed is in effect whenever the sign is flashing. And, as with all warning signs with yellow advisory speeds on them, the slower advisory speed applies to you until you pass the object shown in the warning sign (in this case, the school).

Because these are not school zones, TxDOT will not install "END SCHOOL ZONE" signs. However, we have asked them to install regular speed limit signs at locations that roughly correspond to what would be the end of a zone (if it were actually a school zone).

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Andrew C Hilton
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Username: Andrew_c_hilton

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 03:10 pm:   

Children in the Knolls of Frisco subdivision must cross ElDorado to get to Pink Elementary don't they?

http://www.friscoisd.org/departments/FacilitiesFinance/documents/ELEMENTARY.pdf

I don't have children of school age yet, but do live in the Knolls of Frisco, and am concerned that once our kids are old enough, that they must cross such a large road to reach school.
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 106
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 10:53 pm:   

Andrew,

Elementary students in the Knolls of Frisco and Newman Village do not have to cross Eldorado Parkway in order to attend Pink Elementary. Frisco ISD has a policy where they bus any elementary students who would otherwise have to cross a state highway. Please contact FISD for bus route information.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

AAP
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Username: Aap

Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 02:34 am:   

What does an "advisory speed of 35 mph" mean? If one is going faster than 35mph can one be ticketed?
 

Adam Henderson, Sergeant
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Username: Adam

Post Number: 31
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 10:54 am:   

Anyone can be ticketed for driving at an unsafe speed given the conditions; therefore, it is recommended that motorists follow speed limit signs regardless of whether they are "advisory" or other.

Adam J. Henderson, Sergeant
Public Information Officer
AHenderson@FriscoTexas.gov

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