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Jonathan Rohrbach
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Username: Safetyguy

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   

Through reading some previous posts it appears that contstruction to widen Eldorado east of Preston is a long way off. Is there anything that can be done to add a LEFT TURN LANE from Eldroado to Preston? The area has a right turn only lane (which is odd b/c very few cars go right compared to left) and a left turn or straight lane. The left turn/striaght lane is almost always backed up (up to 3 light changes at some times) and often cars will drive in the right turn only lane and cut off cars or simply drive right through the intersection.

Thanks.

(Message edited by perry on November 05, 2008)
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 18
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   

Jonathan,

The problem with the intersection is that Eldorado east of Preston has been widened while Eldorado west of Preston has not, which creates an offset situation. Due to the traffic conditions you describe, we have previously considered restriping the east side of the intersection to provide a left-turn only lane and a right-turn/through lane. However, it was decided not to do so.

The current lane being used for westbound through movements is already offset from the receiving lane on the other side. If we shifted it over another lane, the offset would become even larger. It was determined that this offset would be too severe, especially if a westbound car were to enter the intersection at full speed. To maximize safety at the intersection, we are maintaining the westbound lanes as they are until the intersection is reconstructed.

Preston Road is a TxDOT road and therefore they control its reconstruction. Because this intersection experiences congestion due to its current configuration, we have worked it out with TxDOT that this intersection will be reconstructed at the beginning of the Preston Road widening project. Construction on Preston Road is expected to begin in early 2009.

Thanks,

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Matt Jones
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 12:44 pm:   

Has there been any update on this? Going to work from Dominion at Panther Creek there is no other option than Preston and Eldorado. I have seen this backed up almost to the second Dominion entrance on the east side of Eldorado.

Thanks!
Matt
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 62
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   

Matt,

TxDOT started construction on Preston Road in August, which up to this point has included relocating utilities next to the roadway. Actual construction of the roadway itself will begin within the week after being delayed for a while due to all of the rain.

Rather than starting at Main Street or US 380, TxDOT is starting the pavement work at the intersection of Preston & Eldorado so that traffic can be switched as soon as possible to make the signal timing more efficient for Eldorado. It is currently estimated that the first traffic switch of that type will occur as early as June 2010 (weather permitting).

In addition, a temporary traffic signal is going to be built at the intersection of Preston and Panther Creek Parkway in the early phases of the project. This will provide another controlled access point for traffic to get onto Preston Road from the east side, which will give residents of Dominion and Panther Creek Estates another option.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Matt Matasso
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:56 am:   

Are there any updates to the temporary traffic signal going up at Preston and Panther Creek?

Thanks in advance,
Matt

(Message edited by perry on December 21, 2009)
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 66
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 09:52 am:   

Matt,

The latest information we have from TxDOT is that they plan to install the temporary traffic signal at Preston & Panther Creek Pkwy in January (it is expected to be operational by the end of that month).

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Enigineer
 

Sam Pevehouse
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   

It's great to see some progress. What is the city's (and/or FPD) position on how westbound traffic at peak times behaves. Every morning during my commute to work, i always see 2-3 cars that travel up the right lane and then cut over at the last minute. often crossing the white lines prior to the intersection or traveling into the insterstion before cutting over. I have see several dangerous situations that could have been avoided had people not done that. I have almost been hit several times by people crossing over at the very last minute. I know that there are probably more pressing matters, but as the much needed progress of the construction continues, i am very concerned about the saftey of how the west bound traffic behaves. It is not only at that intersection either. You can watch people as they continue up the right lane, turn right (north) on preston, and then pull into the Laterra entrance only to u-turn and turn left (south) back onto Preston. I have seen several instances where the u-turn just happens from shoulder to shoulder...

I have only seen an officer monitor that intersection a few times within the last year, & when that occurs it's amazing how people drive and follow the laws. I know that having an officer there is not always a good solution, so maybe the city could look into some additional signage further away from the intersection?
 

Adam Henderson, Sergeant
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Username: Adam

Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:56 am:   

The police department's Traffic Unit is cognizant of the traffic problems at Preston/Eldorado and are continuing to spend time and allocate resources to monitoring the intersection.

In the past, the Traffic Unit has written a myriad of citations for different traffic violations. As you noted, the presence of officers in the area does help to remedy many of the problems, but as soon as officers leave the area some of the violators return to their old ways. We are working to help ensure that there is a steady presence in the area.

Look for more police motorcycles and patrol officers working in the area. Thanks for your concern and for bringing this to our attention.

Adam J. Henderson, Sergeant
Public Information Officer
Frisco Police Department
972.292.6133 office
AHenderson@FriscoTexas.gov
 

Matt Matasso
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Username: Happiicamper

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   

any updates on the light? (preston and panther creek) its march and no light?

thanks in advance...
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 74
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 09:53 am:   

Matt,

TxDOT ran into some problems with conflicts with utility lines. They have had to figure out a way to deal with the utilities and have had to redesign the traffic signal. They tell us that they hope to start construction of the traffic signal by the end of March, but that it might stretch into April.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
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Username: Perry

Post Number: 187
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   

Any updates on the completion timelines for the Preston-Eldorado intersection road construction.
Lots of time get consumed during morning hrs to take Left on Preston from east Eldorado road

jojo.jobin@gmail.com
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 75
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 06:20 pm:   

JoJo,

TxDOT still anticipates making the first switch of traffic on Eldorado Parkway in June. Although the construction of the intersection will not be complete, temporarily shifting westbound Eldorado traffic onto the south side of the road will line up the eastbound and westbound approaches at the traffic signal and allow us to operate a much more efficient traffic signal timing sequence while construction continues. (Refer to my post from 11/5/08 above for the signal timing constraints we currently operate under.)

TxDOT estimates that the intersection will not be completed until November 2011, but conditions will improve due to the more efficient signal timing beginning in June. Then conditions will improve even more in 2011 when additional lanes can be put into service.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Jim Page
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Username: Hawaiijim

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:59 am:   

With the horrible traffic at this intersection every morning (and now it seems on weekends, as well), would it not have been prudent to work on coordinating the TxDOT (Preston widening) and Frisco (El Dorado) projects to complete this intersection first? Frankly, it seems very little is being done here after an initial flurry of work.
It appears that the Preston project is focused on north of El Dorado. Why didn't they work on Main to El Dorado first?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
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Username: Perry

Post Number: 206
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 11:24 am:   

Thank you for your question. I understand your frustration and we continue to work with TxDOT to get this area started. We did coordinate with TxDOT dating back to 2006 during plan preparation for both Preston and Eldorado. The Preston construction plans called for this area to get addressed first. The city had its Eldorado contractor start in this area to be ready for when the TxDOT contractor would begin the job. That plan was based on all utility relocations being complete by the time the TxDOT contractor was required to start work; however, utility conflicts in the Eldorado area prevented the TxDOT contractor from starting at Eldorado or between Eldorado and Main.

Thanks
Brian Moen
Assistant Director of Engineering
 

Jim Page
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Username: Hawaiijim

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   

Thanks for the update. If all utility relocation has been completed, when can we expect to see some work/improvement at this intersection? Having to sit through 2 to 3 cycles and watch cars cut in all of the time is not a great way to start the morning.
 

Jim Page
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Username: Hawaiijim

Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   

It's been a month since my last question, and it doesn't look as if anything at all has been done at the preston and El Dorado intersection. When will work start on getting this intersection to be more user friendly?
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 80
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 04:19 pm:   

Jim,

TxDOT informs us that they plan to make the traffic switch at Eldorado and Preston in late June or early July (weather permitting). Once westbound traffic is switched to share the southern lanes with eastbound traffic, the traffic signal timing can be changed to allow east and westbound traffic to flow at the same time. In addition, this configuration will remove the right-turn lane that some drivers are using to "cheat." Therefore, conditions for westbound traffic will be significantly improved right away regardless of what part of the project TxDOT works on next and when.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

eric
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Username: Eba28

Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2010
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 02:08 pm:   

Is there any update to the time table for the westbound traffic switch at Eldorado and Preston?
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 84
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 04:36 pm:   

Eric,

The rain delayed some of the work, and now TxDOT tells us that there is a utility conflict that they have to work through. Therefore, they are projecting the traffic switch to occur in late July or early August (weather permitting).

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Lance Crabtree
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Username: Lance_crabtree

Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 - 07:18 am:   

We were told this intersection was a priority and would be first during the widening of Preston. Lately it seems this intersection is last on prioriteis. What is the hold up with the intersection improvements? One week of rain aside, this intersection has not seen any activitiy in months. What are these utility "conflicts" and why weren't these utilities accounted for in the planning stages?
 

Jason Brodigan, Sr. Civil Engineer
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Username: Jason_brodigan

Post Number: 47
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 02:42 pm:   

The intersection of Preston Rd and Eldorado Pkwy is a priority for the City. Unfortunately, utility conflicts with TxDOT's construction have prevented them from working in the intersection as soon as everyone would have preferred.

Utilities are accounted for in the planning stages. TxDOT conducted utility coordination meetings for 2 years prior to the start of construction; however, the utility companies have to budget the projects, complete the design, and begin construction. In addition, multiple utilities are often located at the same location and their relocation must be coordinated. For example, the conflict at Eldorado is primarily with electric poles. The power company will first install new poles and hang new wire. Once that is completed, the cable and/or phone companies which also use the poles can transfer their new facilities to the new poles and remove their old facilities from the old poles. Finally, when all the other utilities are done, the power company can eliminate the conflict by removing the old poles. This process requires coordination and can often be frustrating. Once all the conflicts are removed the contractor can schedule his work in the intersection.

It appears we have cleared the major hurdles and we are working with the contractor to get his work started in the intersection.
 

Larry Good
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Username: Wlgood

Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 08:42 pm:   

I'm glad to see progress is being made at Preston/Eldorado, but was really surprised to see that the entrance to my subdivison-Dominion at Panther Creek-has been blocked for the traffic switch. I'm a team player and can deal with the inconvenience of having to back track through the subdivision to leave out of another entrance but was curious how long I, and my neighbors, would have to do so.
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 91
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 06:49 pm:   

Larry,

TxDOT estimates that Gladstone will be closed in this manner for about six months.

We apologize for the inconvenience to your neighborhood and appreciate your patience as we undergo these growing pains. Once construction is completed, traffic conditions in the entire area will be greatly improved. Even now, the traffic switch that was made on Friday has allowed us to improve the efficiency of the traffic signal at Preston & Eldorado and westbound traffic is already benefitting with much lower delays. Any extra time it takes Dominion residents to get out of the neighborhood during this phase should be more than made up with the time savings they will experience at Preston & Eldorado.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer
 

Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
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Username: Joel_fitts

Post Number: 92
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   

As a followup announcement on this issue, the City has been talking to TxDOT about this issue and TxDOT has agreed to build a new crossover transition in the median east of Gladstone, which will allow them to reopen Gladstone. They estimate it will take two to three weeks to complete this work and reopen Gladstone.

Joel Fitts
Senior Traffic Engineer

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