Post Number: 1
|Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 09:34 am: |
With the passage of new federal law in 2005 allowing towns to take proactive measures to create “quiet zones” I’d like to understand what steps our city representatives are taking to create a quiet zone for train whistle noise. Over the past several months train whistle noise in the early morning hours has become significantly worse. I’ve seen posts dating back to January 2006 saying this issue was being evaluated, but no update since then.
Curt Balogh, Spec. Asst. to the City Mgr
Post Number: 508
|Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 03:36 pm: |
The City is anxious to establish a Quiet Zone on the BNSF railroad south of Eldorado Parkway. This Quiet Zone will silence all train horns between Eldorado Parkway and the DNT (Dallas North Toll-way) except in emergencies.
The process is moving as quickly as possible given that certain improvements have to be made at our crossings to comply with guidelines from the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA).
The Frisco engineering staff met with BNSF (Burlington Northern Sante Fe) and determined the following improvements are needed:
1. County Road 712 – the rail crossing will be rebuilt in 2008 to provide median and gate improvements needed for a Quiet Zone
2. Main Street - no additional improvements needed for a Quiet Zone
3. Frisco Square Blvd. - the rail crossing will be constructed in 2008 to provide median and gate improvements needed for a Quiet Zone
4. Elm Street – closed last year (permanently)
5. Sewage Treat Plant crossing – the City will secure an access easement to this City property to close the crossing over the next 12 months
6. DNT frontage roads - no additional improvements needed for a Quiet Zone
All improvements must be in place to comply with FRA guidelines before BNSF will stop sounding the train horn. However, the City hopes that the project will be completed in approximately 12 months after CR 712 is rebuilt and the Frisco Square Blvd. railroad crossing is complete.
John Black, P.E.
Sr. Traffic Engineer
City of Frisco
6101 Frisco Square Blvd.
Frisco, TX 75034
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 07:36 pm: |
What is the present status of the 'quiet zones'? If not yet implemented, can you provide a time table by which they will be? Thank you!!
Perry Harts, Moderator
Post Number: 190
|Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:39 am: |
The Quiet Zone process is on hold until the City secures an alternative access to the sewage treatment plant east of the DNT railroad crossings. This alternative access will allow for the removal of the railroad crossing serving this site. Staff expects the Quiet Zone to be established in the first half of 2011.
Assistant Director of Engineering Services.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 12:59 pm: |
Just want to check that if the statement from the last post "Quiet Zone to be established in the first half of 2011" is still up to date.
Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
Post Number: 44
|Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:44 am: |
The city has submitted all required paperwork to the railroad, and we anticipate full implementation of the Quiet Zones by the end of December 2010.
Post Number: 2
|Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 09:05 pm: |
I still here train horns almost every day. We've called the city to complain periodically. But this doesn't seem to make a difference. What is the city doing to enforce this?
Joel Fitts, Senior Traffic Engineer
Post Number: 113
|Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 12:08 am: |
The City does report to the railroad any complaints we receive about train horns occuring in the Quiet Zone. Such complaints dropped off sharply after the first couple weeks of the Quiet Zone and it seems the train engineers are doing a good job of complying with it. We will continue to pass along any complaints we receive, but at this stage, enforcement becomes a little more complicated as I will explain below.
First let me explain the instances when you will continue to hear train horns (which are not violations of the Quiet Zone):
1. Trains continue to blow their horn north of Eldorado Parkway where there are at-grade crossings that are not included in the Quiet Zone. Depending on where you are, the sound of train horns may be the same to you if these were the closest horns to you that you heard before the Quiet Zone went into effect. In addition, southbound trains that blow their horn north of Eldorado are pointed towards town and their horns will still be heard within the Quiet Zone, though at a much lower volume than if they were still blowing their horns at the crossings within the Quiet Zone.
2. Trains are allowed to blow their horn in the Quiet Zone if they see a potential hazard (such as a person or animal or car on or near the tracks) or if there is maintenance work going on along the rail line and workers may be present.
Now that the Quiet Zone is well established, if a train blows its horn in the Quiet Zone without seeing a potential hazard, that is a violation. However, the City has no power to enforce the Quiet Zone itself, but instead must rely on the Federal Railroad Administration to do so. Therefore, to register an official complaint with the FRA we must provide the following:
- Date and Time of the horn
- Direction of the train
- The crossing where the horn was blown
- The engine number
If you are near the tracks and see a train violating the Quiet Zone, please record this information and provide it to the City and we will report it to the FRA. If you hear a train horn and are not close enough to the tracks to record the engine number, but you are sure the train was within the Quiet Zone, you can still report it to the City and we will pass it along to the railroad to encourage voluntary compliance.
Senior Traffic Engineer