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Kendall Meade
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:11 am:   

Can you give me info on when construction of this park will begin and a timeline? What types of things will be featured in this park?
 

Curt Balogh, Spec. Asst. to the City Mgr
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 372
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:19 am:   

The City does not have any time frame for starting construction. The City has had internal meetings to discuss construction the "activity lake" shown on the master plan. The City of Frisco has to get approval from the City of Dallas and the US Army Corps of Engineers to proceed with the actual construction. The reason that the City of Frisco has to get permission from the City of Dallas is that Dallas has the water rights since Stewart Creek flows in Lake Lewisville.

Part of the recent bond allocated several million dollars for the first phase improvements for Grand Park. Again, staff is having internal discussions what the first improvements should include. Once the first round improvements are determined, than construction plans will be prepared, reviewed and ultimately released for construction.

As stated in the beginning, there is not a definitive date for commencing construction. However, staff is working internally to define when the construction will commence.

John Lettelleir
Director of Planning and Development Services
 

Michelle Leacock
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 08:16 pm:   

Any updates to the Grand Park constuction?

Thanks,
Michelle
 

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 364
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   

Michelle,

Thanks for your note regarding the Grand Park. We have retained a Design Firm to assist with the remainder of the planning and getting the needed approval from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE).

At this point, we are not sure how long the permitting process will take so it is difficult to determine a construction start date. Usually it takes between 12 and 24 months to have a project reviewed and approved by the USACE.

As we get a little further in the process we should be able to narrow it down some. Please feel free to contact me over the next couple of months and I will be happy to provide an update.

Thank you again for your note and interest.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Superintendent
972-292-6500
 

Michelle Leacock
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:24 pm:   

Any current updates on the parks status?

Thanks!
 

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 409
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 05:32 pm:   

Michelle,

Thanks for your note and interest in the Grand Park. As you can imagine the Grand Park is an enormous undertaking.

We have posted the latest version of the master plan on the web (http://www.friscofun.org/Parks1/GrandPark_MP.pdf).

The City will grow into this park over the next number of years and things may adjust accordingly. The mixed use layout you see on the west and north of the park is purely conceptual at this point.

We have submitted documents to the United States Army Corps of Engineers to gain permission to construct the lakes. This process can take between 12 and 24 months and once we understand how long this process will take, we should be able to firm up the time line.

We are currently making efforts to get phase one constructed which will primarily be the lakes, kids place area, infrastructure, parking and the amphitheater area.

Feel free to let me know if you have any additional questions.


Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
972-292-6502
draymond@friscotexas.gov

(Message edited by perry on December 30, 2009)
 

matt c.
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   

Any updates on Grand Park Phase One?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
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Username: Perry

Post Number: 69
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 08:16 am:   

Matt,

No there are no new updates. We continue to work through the design and approval process. The timing of the project is somewhat dependent on when we can receive permits from the USACE as well as TCEQ. These are very lengthy process and can take between 12 and 24 months. We are early in the process with the Corps so we are using 18 months for a place holder in our schedule. That would put starting phase one around the second quarter of 2010 and it is anticipated that construction will take approximately 18-22 months. Again, we are very early in the process so it is difficult to be more specific right now.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

craig
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 03:18 pm:   

Any updates or information on Grand Park development?

(Message edited by perry on August 10, 2009)
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 118
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 04:58 pm:   

Craig,

The City continues to move forward on the plans for Grand Park. The application has been submitted to the US Army Corps of Engineers and we are awaiting to hear on the status of our permit. We are starting to move forward on the design and construction document remainder of the Phase One elements. At this point it is difficult to give a firm start date as we are unsure when the USACE will approve our permit. It usually takes between 12-24 months.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

Michelle Leacock
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Username: Mleacock

Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:29 pm:   

Hi Perry,

Any new updates on the Grand Park status?

Thanks!
 

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 444
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 09:31 am:   

Michelle,

Thanks for your note regarding the Grand Park. The permit to construct the lakes is still being reviewed by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The consultants have now begun to work on designing the park facilities for the park that are anticipated to be constructed in Phase one.

We held a public meeting with the subcommittee on November 5, 2009 and will have another this next week on December 14th to guide the design of the kids place area.

These meeting are open to the public and you are welcome to attend. The meeting will begin at 6:00 p.m. at the Senior Center at Frisco Square. The Senior Center is located at 6670 Moore Street, just south of the Heritage Museum.

We will more than likely spend 2010 seeking approval from the USACE and completing the construction drawings.

It is a large project with complicated issues that require approval from State and Federal agencies. As a result, it unfortunately moves slow but we continue to make progress.

Should you have any additional questions, please let me know.

Regards,

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
972-292-6502
draymond@friscotexas.gov
 

MJR
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:22 pm:   

Note sure if I missed it in this thread or not but where exactly is this park going to be located?
The link "Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 05:32 pm" no longer works so we have no way to see the master plan. Can this be fixed?
Thx!!
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 158
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 01:30 pm:   

Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed the link with the correct link which is http://www.friscofun.org/Parks1/GrandPark_MP.pdf .
 

Beau Lollar
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:25 am:   

In the northeast corner of the Grand Park rendering it shows an area called "Civic Green", however I've seen site plans for the American Railroad Museum that also utilize that space. Is the museum still going in or will this be park space?
 

Perry Harts, Moderator
Board Administrator
Username: Perry

Post Number: 159
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 09:50 am:   

Beau,

The Museum will be located in this spot. The Grand Park master plan was completed prior to the notion of the American Railroad Museum moving to Frisco. However, it was always contemplated that the building and surrounding land on the east side of the DNT would have some civic component. The museum is a great compliment to the Park and both should benefit from the close proximity to the other.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

Ryan Maconachy
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2010
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 10:27 am:   

Any updates to the status of the Grand Park development?
 

Daniel Ford
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Username: Daniel_ford

Post Number: 32
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 08:16 am:   

Ryan,

The project is still in the process of design and gaining approval from the governmental agencies. Due to the size and complexities of the project the planning and permitting is quite extensive. The City must gain approval of the project or portions of the project from 3 federal agencies, 6 state agencies or divisions, the NTTA, as well as approval from the City of Dallas as they have the water rights to the water that is conveyed in Stewart Creek and various departments within the City of Frisco. All of this is being done in an effort to provide a great park experience, serve as an element that helps to congeal several areas/developments of town and tie the project to the commercial property that flanks the north and west sides of the park. Planning for the commercial property has become even more difficult with the economic climate causing many developers that could undertake a project of this size to be hesitant in moving forward.

As the Museum of American Railroad announced that they were relocating east of the Tollway, the planning and design needed to consider the benefits that the museum could add to the park. So we needed to study and understand what connections could be made between the Park and the museum.

The process has been admittedly slow, however it is far more important to take the time needed to get the relationships correct and the park elements programmed properly than to rush the project. That combined with the project being extremely complicated with respect to the uses being tied together and the number of agencies that have oversight tends to cause the process to be slow.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

matt c.
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 09:15 am:   

So if you had to put a timeline on it, what are you thinking 5 years? 10 years? More?
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 10:34 am:   

Matt,

For complete build out of the park, probably 10 years or better. For first phase which is what is currently what we are working on, we are hopeful that we could start construction in 18 months or so. Construction will likely take 18-24 months

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

Dylan burgess
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 09:10 am:   

Hi, well 18 months from September's post would make it March 2012 when construction of the new phase begins. How's the progress right now? Has anything picked up speed? Just asking, because I live right off Stonebrook.

(Message edited by admin on January 27, 2011)
 

Daniel Ford
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Username: Daniel_ford

Post Number: 37
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 04:39 pm:   

Dylan,

The project continues to make progress. Due to the economy starting to pick up, we are hopeful that it will spur interest in the Mixed Use component of the project. The start date of the project will still be contingent on when the plans are complete as well some thought will be given to the economy and how a project such as this will affect the Cityís tax rate and operation and maintenance cost.

Dudley Raymond
 

Ryan Maconachy
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2010
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 11:25 am:   

Hi,
Well we are seeing some significant movement on the Stonebrook Parkway expansion, How long after it's completion will Phase 1 of the Grand Park begin to move dirt?
 

Daniel Ford
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Username: Daniel_ford

Post Number: 117
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 08:15 am:   

Ryan,

The construction of these two projects is independent of each other. We are continuing to refine the design of the Kids Place area and working with the USACE to receive permits for the lakes and the project as a whole.

Dudley Raymond
 

J Scamardo
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2011
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 08:42 am:   

What will the Kids Place area include? Sounds exciting!
 

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 461
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 11:39 am:   

J Scamardo,

Thanks for your question about the Kids Place element that is being defined for the Grand Park project. The Kids Place subcommittee is currently finalizing plans for this element and we hope to have a meeting with the subcommittee within the next two months to submit final recommendations for the play area.

Please feel free to stay in touch with our office over the next couple of months as we cointinue to work with the parks consultant and the subcommittee.

Thanks again,

Rick Wieland
Director of Parks and Recreation
972-347-1955
rwieland@friscotexas.gov
 

Wayne Tang
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 04:02 pm:   

Seeing how Grand Park is less than a mile away from the lead polluting Exide Technologies plant, is this the safest possible location to have our kids be outside playing? Will the soil and air quality be tested at Grand Park? Will this end up being a waste of taxpayer dollars if this site ends up being toxic from the lead pollution?
 

Daniel Ford
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Username: Daniel_ford

Post Number: 149
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 07:49 am:   

As part of the process for planning and designing Grand Park, tests will be conducted to make sure that if there are any pollution issues that the problems are taken care of before the public improvements are made.

Thanks
George
 

Bart Werden
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:21 pm:   

Hi -When will construction begin on Grand Park?
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 71
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 11:47 am:   

Currently, it looks as if it will be approximately 2 years before the project can start construction. We are working with the various state and federal regulatory agencies to receive permission to build the lakes. Construction will take approximately 18 -24 months once began.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development manager
 

Ryan Maconachy
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2010
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2012 - 05:14 pm:   

Any update on the Grand Park timeline for start of construction?
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 260
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 11:29 am:   

The project is progressing satisfactorily. We are still probably a year to eighteen months from receiving approval from the USACE and then the plans must be finalized then put out to bid.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

Brian Taylor
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 02:56 pm:   

Glad to hear it is still making progress.

I know permits and approvals are required for constructing the lakes, but is it possible to blaze a trail system ahead of all that? No doubt my family would use the trails with or without the lakes and the rest.
 

Rick Wieland, Dir. of Parks and Rec
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 467
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:23 am:   

Brian,

Thanks for your note. The thought of placing trails at the park prior to construction has been discussed in the past and merits some addiitonal examination.

Some valid concerns that have been discussed to date for this have included limiting access to the park users and others after dark; the need and cost to develop parking that would need to be removed prior to the initial construction of the park, etc.

Having said that, we will take a look at the potential project and discuss it further with the Parks and Recreation Board. That would likely occur at the December 13, 2012 meeting of the Board.

Feel free to attend that meeting to provide your input to the Board or contact me after that time. I will be more than happy to share whatever input has resulted from that meeting.

Thanks again for your note and interest in the park. If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to let me or our staff know.

Best Regards,

Rick Wieland
Director of Parks and Recreation
972-292-6500
rwieland@friscotexas.gov
 

Bart Werden
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Username: Bwerden

Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 10:19 pm:   

I'm curious to know if there are any noise abatement plans for Grand park?

Thanks, Bart

(Message edited by admin on October 30, 2012)
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 270
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 11:23 am:   

Bart,

The elevated road helps the with the sound. Because the road is tilted away from the park, the roadway itself as well as the barrier wall helps to redirect a portion of the sound up and away from the park. During the busy times of traffic, a person can hear the noise of the road, but it becomes background noise. You can notice it today, but after a little time your brain starts to notice whatís in close proximity or sound that is different from the drone of the roadway.

A person in the park can hear the background noise but it is of such a level that once the park is developed and has its own noise, i.e. kids playing, people talking, cars driving in the park, etc., the background noise of the tollway will become even less noticeable. Trees planted within the park will help absorb some of the sound waves as well.

We have had quite a few people concerned about this, but after they spend some time in the space, they all feel it is not an issue.

Dudley Raymond
 

Troy Evans
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2013
Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 07:09 pm:   

I live across the street and I am trying to find a master plan of what we can expect for Grand Park. I know there has been construction on Stonebrook but what I am looking for is the overall plan. Will this be a Shops at Legacy on steriods? When we purchased our home we were told the plans were to have 30-40 restaurants and over 100 retailers. I appreciate your feedback. We are just trying to figure out if this is going to be a park or a lot more.
Many Thanks Troy
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 338
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 10:32 am:   

The master plan is located on the City web site at the following address.. http://www.friscofun.org/Parks1/Grand%20Park_Revised%20.pdf Or the City of Frisco web site under Parks and Recreation/parks and trails/undeveloped parks / Grand Park.

The makeup of elements on the west side of the park has not been nailed down exactly. As that process was starting to take place, the economy took a turn and developers were not in a position to adequately plan for such a development until things shook out. The City is very interested in constructing a place that will be worthy of being placed next to such an iconic park. The construction and feel should be high quality and will bring value to the City and to the residents.

Dudley Raymond
Parks Planning and Business Development Manager
 

Bart Werden
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 09:12 am:   

It's been over 3 years since the last post. Are there any updates on a construction start date?
 

Ben Brezina, Assistant to the City Manag
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Username: Ben_brezina

Post Number: 819
Registered: 06-2010
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 10:24 am:   

Mr. Werden,

I apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry.

The Grand Park Project remains a very high priority for the City of Frisco. About the time of the last post by Mr. Raymond, testing revealed that Stewart Creek had been affected by contamination from the Exide Facility. While this contamination did not pose an immediate health risk, remediation of Stewart Creek would be required from the Exide Facility to Lake Lewisville. This includes the Grand Park portion of that Creek. Fortunately this was discovered prior to commencement of any work on the Grand Park Lake or any other creek related features. The remediation efforts related to Exide are also a very high priority for Frisco. This effort has been complicated by the Exide Bankruptcy but the efforts to remediate continue. Extensive testing has been taking place for some time now.

The effort to obtain a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers permit for the lake did meet some obstacles but that effort has also recently began to move forward. We hope to have that permit this calendar year. We intend to coordinate the Exide remediation with the construction of the Grand Park Lake knowing that the lake canít be constructed until the remediation process has begun. I am hopeful that actual work will begin within the next 18 months.

Should you have any questions please contact me at any time.

Thanks,

Mack

Mack Borchardt
Special Assistant to the City Manager
City of Frisco
6101 Frisco Square Blvd.
5th Floor
Frisco, Texas 75034
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